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Jackie Huba

May 25, 2007

Why we stopped podcasting

Eager to explore the emerging new medium of podcasting, we launched our own podcast in February 2005. Our goal was to produce thoughtful and interesting shows about customer evangelism and word of mouth.

It was fun for about 10 episodes but exhausted by the work, we stopped. For the NPR-sounding quality we sought, the production was time-consuming and laborious. We usually spent 8-10 hours editing a 30-40 minute show.

We were in "the dip," as Seth Godin describes in his terrific new book, "The Dip: A Little Book That Teaches You When to Quit (and When to Stick)." Seth says that yes, winners do quit, and quitters do win. The key is know when you are stuck in the dip, a low-point when things aren't fun any more, whether you should push through or just stop.

The time spent working on the podcast was distracting from writing another book, keeping up with blog posts, and preparing for speaking engagements. It was hard to quit when people were saying that they loved the podcasts; emails plead with us to keep going (..."Please please please don't give it up!")

After reading Seth's book, I realized we made the right choice. As a lab experiment, podcasting taught us much about the democratization of media, but quitting freed us to focus on the work that mattered the most to us.

BONUS: I attended Seth's book tour stop in Chicago last week and His Baldness signed 5 copies of "The Dip" for me to give away. If you want one of the five signed copies, post a comment below by May 26 at noon CDT COMMENTS ARE NOW CLOSED and I will randomly draw 5 winners. I'll email the winners to get their snail mail addresses. (Sorry, U.S. addresses only!)

UPDATE: The winners of the Seth Godin-autographed copies of The Dip are Matt McKee, Neil Simon, Scott Barnett, Chris Ray and Clint Schaff. Congrats!

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Ooh, ooh, pick me!

Posted by: Ben Martin at May 25, 2007 2:22:51 PM

No fair, US addresses only?... is this the web or not? Are you suggesting that the democratization of brands ends at the 49th parallel!

Sheesh,
Give Canada a chance to win a book here.Toss in an extra 50 cents in postage!

Don't make me start a facebook group!

;-)

Posted by: collin at May 25, 2007 2:31:04 PM

"The Dip" is an important concept for us "retirees" as well as our Social Security supporters. I've had to count the cost, too.
(http://tomesnyder.com/)

Posted by: Tom E. Snyder at May 25, 2007 2:34:06 PM

Collin -- It's a free book, so by avoiding the 30 minutes of standing in the line at the post office, we avoid that time dip and the 1 in 4 chance the package never arrives.

Whayagonnado?

Posted by: Ben McConnell at May 25, 2007 2:48:25 PM

Dippity do da!

Posted by: Kevin w at May 25, 2007 3:49:40 PM

Sorry that the podcast is ceasing, but totally dig your rationale. Good luck to ya! (Oh, and I'd love a copy of The Dip!:)

Posted by: Clint Schaff at May 25, 2007 4:33:33 PM

I am glad you quit. Okay that was a little harsh sounding. I do love your blog.

Posted by: Matt McKee at May 25, 2007 4:34:25 PM

I'm in...

Posted by: Chris Ray at May 25, 2007 5:05:54 PM

Thanks Jackie... I enjoy your blog posts.

Posted by: Neil Simon at May 25, 2007 6:15:39 PM

Sorry to hear you've quit, but understand. I only recently found your podcast, learned a lot from it and have been heavily recommending it to other marketing team members. Any recommendations on other podcasts worth downloading?

Posted by: Scott Barnett at May 25, 2007 7:17:29 PM

Hate to hear that guys because your podcast was honestly the best one I had ever heard, and yes I believed I blogged that ;) But I understand, after starting my own podcast, it is a huge time sink, and something has to be sacrificed if you want to continue it.

Posted by: Mack Collier at May 25, 2007 7:52:30 PM

Thanks for a great blog, and a good post. I've seen "the dip" a number of times myself, and I'm thankful for those times that I pressed on.

I'm also thankful for those things that I gave up that, on retrospect, I don't really miss.

Posted by: Ed Eubanks Jr. at May 25, 2007 8:56:44 PM

Ahh, I was wondering if we'd see another Church podcast. What's interestingly timely about reading this post is that just this morning I listened to a Duct Tape Marketing podcast interview of Seth Godin discussing The Dip. Then after a team meeting at work I erased what my boss had written on the whiteboard and diagrammed the concept of the dip. I used it to make a case that we should know what activities to quit in order to focus on where we are going to be successful. The whole idea became more clear to me as I presented it. That's just from hearing him talk about it on a podcast. I have enjoyed all of Seth's books and found something relevant in each. This is the first time though that the concept stuck just BEFORE reading it. I look forward to reading it and sharing the idea with coworkers.

Posted by: Scott Magoon at May 25, 2007 9:36:13 PM

I'm in - I've been hearing about this book of late. Adn as I dabble more in the world of social media, the more I realize that there's so much to be learnt.

Posted by: Subir Kumedan at May 25, 2007 10:18:53 PM

It seems as though we often have a "need" to do something just becasue "everyone is doing it." Yet we often find out it does not bring us any closer to our goals. Still, the momentum has us and we just can't quit . . .

Posted by: Jeff at May 25, 2007 10:33:15 PM

Your blog is one of the best! Thanks for making a difference. I appreicate your blog because it's not just informative, it makes you really think. Thank you.

Jeff Payne
www.Jeffpayne.net

P.S. --- I would love to win one of the free Seth Godin signed copies!!!!

Posted by: Jeff Payne at May 26, 2007 5:40:15 AM

Hi - I would love a chance to win the signed copy of Seth's book. Thanks! - Linda Tapp

Posted by: Linda Tapp at May 26, 2007 7:48:05 AM

Great comments on reminding corporate America not to run from CGM. I had just read that article in the NYT this morning, and was glad to see your quick response about it.

Seth is a genius....so a signed copy of The Dip would be great, please!

Thanks

Posted by: Andy at May 26, 2007 8:34:10 AM

Make it simple, you know I like simple, and choose the last 5 of us who commented.

Dip, dip, dip.

Dip, dip, dip,

Dip your book, dip you book.

Where's KC and his Sunshine Band when you need him ?

Posted by: Mike Sigers at May 26, 2007 9:55:35 AM

Sorry you quit podcasting but it makes complete sense. Will miss your energy and passion on my Ipod

Posted by: charlotte at May 26, 2007 10:08:37 AM

Canadians need "the dip" too ;)

Posted by: Karim at May 26, 2007 11:56:16 AM