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October 16, 2009

4 questions with author Jeanne Bliss

Screen shot 2009-10-16 at 3.58.02 PM What makes the difference between having customers who like you and customers who love you?

Many businesses are admired, but only an elite few have passionate, loyal, vocal fans. The kind of customers who not only come back time and time again, but rave to friends, family, and even strangers.

Jeanne Bliss has been the Chief Customer Officer for Lands End, Coldwell Banker, and Allstate, to name a few. Her new book, "I Love You More Than My Dog": Five Decisions That Drive Extreme Customer Loyalty in Good Times and Bad, is her take on how companies create beloved brands.

Q: You describe five types of decisions companies make; is one more difficult or easier than the rest, and how do they happen?

A: The foundation of every beloved company is their purposeful decision to believe.  They believe in their employees. This frees them from rules, regulations and processes that take away ingenuity and inventiveness and spirit.  And they believe their customers. This creates a level playing field between company and customer, where no one has the upper hand.  By believing customers, companies remove the fine print, the unpublished rules and the just plain old stupid rules that make customers struggle to do business with them. This belief fuels the prosperity of human spirit common to all of the beloved companies. It is the underpinning of what draws customers to them and makes employees want to stay. There's no sequence to how companies become proficient at deciding to be there.  It’s a funny way of saying this, but the act of believing is an essential core competency of beloved companies.

Q:  Online communities and social media have helped create a sense of transparency. Have these been the drivers of a customer driven community or are they merely the byproduct?

A: What’s different about companies that people are drawn to is that they aren’t afraid to show up as who they are, foibles and all.  This means earning the rave when they do things well.  But it also means fessing up when things go wrong.  These businesses allow people to bring the best version of themselves to work with them.  They are nurtured and encouraged to apply their personal business decision making in their business decision making.  It’s what enables companies such as Lush Cosmetics to have the open volley and exchange of ideas with employees and customers who debate and defend decisions on which 100 products they cut out each year.  They enjoy family talk, not corporate talk.  Griffin Hospital, for example, saw a 40% reduction in malpractice lawsuits when they decided to suspend the cynicism and trust families and patients by opening up complete records to them. A lot of companies want to “get” the rave. My take is that they’ve got that backwards. Companies need to earn the right to have customers tell their story. 

Q:  Do companies need to be customer-driven to grow?

A: Companies forget that customers keep them in business.  Customers who love companies grow them.  To understand this, think of customer math -- a rigorous way to track incoming customers by volume and value and then reconcile that number with the lost customers in that same period, comparing incoming and outgoing customer volume and value.  The ‘aha moment’ comes when the math reveals that company marketing dollars are spent replacing customers lost rather than growing the business with the addition of new customers.  In essence, many companies are running in place. I believe in elevating customers as the asset of the business.  That means creating a competency for rigor around a) identifying and getting rid of those things driving customers away; and then b) getting really great at specific things that create a distinct memory and impression about a company and its people.  We forget the fact that it’s the creation of those memories that we make on purpose or accidentally through our operations decisions or policy choices that connect or repel us from customers. 

Q:  What’s the biggest obstacle companies face in making them beloved?

A: Always looking at what each decision will get them. In a world where products and services are available in a hundred variations, these companies get a disproportionate piece of the pie because of how they treat their customers and employees. Acutely aware of how their every action impacts how customers feel and respond to them, they take the time to make purposeful decisions about the contacts they have with customers. So I’d say that the two biggest things in the way of companies adopting these decisions, is first, time:  The rush of the deadline, of the quarter, and of making the quarterly sales goals. The second is silos.  The inability of coming together as a unified operation to work together, fail and learn together and win together.

Posted by Jackie Huba on October 16, 2009 | Permalink

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Interesting questions Jackie, thanks. I feel customer driven passion in every answer from Jeanne Bliss. Over time, keeping the our entire software company laser focused on serving customers has certainly proven to be key for us.

Posted by: Time Clock Guy at Oct 16, 2009 5:26:41 PM

Here's a book that's worth your time -- Mark Paul's "How To Attract Significantly More Customers in Good Times and Bad." Check it out at www.attractmorecustomers.net.

Posted by: Jack Rubinger at Nov 2, 2009 11:34:34 AM

No truer words have ever been spoken! It's all about communication and conversation with your customers. Great post!

Posted by: Steven Diamond at Jan 14, 2010 4:07:32 PM



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